Lansdown Crescent Association, Bath, UK

Bath, Somerset, United Kingdom

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Gallery 15
Snow in the Crescent

Last amended 15 November 2017
Gallery 52
Our sheep on the move before lambing, March 2016
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Gallery 5
William Beckford
  • Lansdown Crescent was designed by John Palmer and built between 1789 and 1793.
  • William Beckford lived here for 20 years and built the bridge between Lansdown Crescent and Lansdown Place West.
  • In April 1942 Somerset Place and Lansdown Place East were badly damaged, and All Saints' Chapel destroyed, by bombing.
  • The Lansdown Crescent Area

    Local History
    The Lansdown Crescent Local History Group is interested in researching the history of our respective homes and local area.
    The club's objectives are:
  • Support and sharing of information, ideas, skills and resources
  • Collection and validation of information
  • Preservation and accessibility of information going forward
  • Publication of important and particularly interesting information on this website and also on Wikipedia
    For more information, contact
    Nicola James | Email


    War Artists on Lansdown
    In May, 2016, Lansdown was the butt of intense media interest when an unexploded bomb was unearthed in the grounds of Hope House, a reminder of the "Baedeker raids" of April 1942. Click
    here for the impressions of some of the war artists working in Bath at the time.
    For more information, contact
    Mandy Shaw (Treasurer) | Email


    An interesting document: Particulars of Sale of Chapel House, 1926
    Judith Pepler recently came across these Particulars in a legal archive. Before handing the document over to the current residents of Chapel House, she suggested that, given that it is no longer in any way confidential, it could be copied and made available, with suitable background notes, to LCA members and local residents via this website.
    Click
    here to see it.
    Mandy Shaw (Webmaster) | Email


    Traffic in the Lansdown Crescent Area
    Contact:
    Nick Bishop | Email
  • 2016 LCA AGM Traffic Report, Nick Bishop
    At the AGM, attendees were updated about the traffic in Lansdown Crescent and the Places, in line with the 2016 Newsletter. Measurements were taken by BANES in September 2015 as planned. The measurements showed no significant increase in traffic speeds compared with the last assessment in June 2013. However there were significant increases in volumes of traffic. In order to obtain a valid indication of trends, the B&NES traffic officer has agreed to repeat these measurements in September 2016. It is hoped that this will include an indication of the type of vehicles passing through the Crescent, i.e. ratio of lorries to cars. Meanwhile members are asked to consider what proposals might be made to B&NES to address the increasing volumes. Any measures proposed will need to be sympathetic in terms of visual impact and the effect on residents accessing their homes. The Council will also be conscious of the effect on adjacent roads of any diversion of traffic. There may not be an easy solution that suits everyone. The Committee will be happy to hear any suggestions prior to the September measurements being taken.
  • Report of B&NES Traffic Investigation, September 2015
    Robin Kerr and Nick Bishop had a useful meeting on 15 December with Peter Bailey, the traffic officer from B&NES. He was able to present the figures resulting from the survey that took place at the end of September 2015. Two detectors were used, one in Lansdown Place West and the other about mid way around the Crescent. These measured both volume and speed of the traffic in both directions. The data were presented raw with no formal analysis but it was possible to make a judgment on changes since the last study which was done in June 2013.
    Speeds:
    There was no significant change from the last study in relation to traffic speeds. Average speeds throughout the day were between 19 and 23mph. This average includes speeds up to around 25mph but in Peter Bailey's opinion there were insufficient numbers at this speed to interest the police in enforcing the 20mph limit. These speeds were consistent in both directions.
    Volumes:
    There was a significant increase in the volume of traffic since 2013. Taking Tuesday as an example, on 25 June 2013, 684 vehicles passed westbound during the 24 hours. On Tuesday 22 September 2015 there were 792, an increase of 15%. For eastbound traffic the numbers were greater going from 750 in 2013 to 905 in 2015, an increase of 20%.
    Conclusions:
    Clearly a large amount of data exists and full analysis would take a lot of time with little likelihood of tangible benefit. In summary the perceived increases in speed of traffic using the Crescent have not been supported by this evidence. It was Peter Bailey's view that the police would not consider this evidence as justification for an enforcement action. The volume of traffic using the Crescent has increased significantly.
    Proposal:
    Peter Bailey agreed with our request to repeat this survey in September 2016. This would give us 3 points by which we can look at trends in a more reliable way. Meanwhile the Association may wish to consider further, what action if any it would like to see to discourage traffic from using Lansdown Crescent as a 'bypass'. Peter Bailey asked this question as further data confirming an upward trend in volume will beg the question from the Council "what do you want us to do about it?" Choices include discouragement by means of traffic calming measures (may not be popular in a Grade 1 listed crescent) or legal restrictions based on weight, width or simply 'access only'. The latter are difficult to enforce which would lead to widespread abuse. The Council would also need to consider the effect on other roads of any such action.

    Rights of Way in the Lansdown Crescent Area
    The National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949 placed a duty on local authorities to produce a Definitive Map and Statement of public rights of way in their area. However, the City of Bath was an excluded area under that Act and the Council is only now undertaking a project to produce a Definitive Map and Statement - see
    this link. The project began in Weston and has gradually been working its way clockwise around the City - currently at Bathwick. Anthony Pearson, the Association's architectural adviser, has checked the Rights of Way in which the LCA is interested and has concluded that all are correctly recorded. (20 February 2015)
    Anthony Pearson | Email

    Lansdown Crescent Sheep
    Please note that, as the field is let, there is no access either for residents or for the general public.


    The Sheep-Farming Year in our Field
    In the case of any emergency, contact
    James Whatmore (Sheep and Field) |
    Email

    The sheep spending part of the year in our field belong to farmer Douglas Creed from Kelston. He began using the field 27 years ago, so is very familiar with the practicalities of the site. The sheep are a cross-breed known as 'mule'; the ewes are mated with Suffolk rams and the lambs are therefore Suffolk mule cross.
    The reproduction cycle began last November 23rd when three Suffolk rams were introduced into the field of ewes at the farm for 'tupping', i.e. mating. The menstrual cycle of the ewes is three weeks, so the rams know from urine when the ewes are individually in season. A blend of oil and dye is rubbed onto the belly of each ram so that, when mating is concluded, oily colour is left on the backs of the ewes to show that they have been mated. The colour is changed after three weeks to show that the last of the ewes to be mated will be later in lambing.
    Mating to birth is a remarkably accurate 147 days, so we can predict that lambing will begin on April 19th and last just over 3 weeks. Some sheep farmers start the process earlier, but by mid April the grass and its nutrition should be ideal. It is important that the grass is no higher than 5"-6"; shorter grass is sweeter and better for milk production for the lambs.
    Once born, single lambs rather than twins (who need slightly longer at the farm) and their mothers can be moved to our field, hence the precision about dates. The lambs are capable of squeezing through the railings onto the road, but, if frightened, hurriedly return to their mothers, who call alarmingly.
    The ewes and lambs remain in the field as long as the grass is suitable. It may be that half of the flock are moved to another field to give the remainder longer in our field, depending upon grass growth and the weather. When the grass is munched down, they have to be moved elsewhere. The ewes also have to return to the farm for shearing; the timing of this depends upon contractors' availability.
    In late Summer/Autumn, the ewes, now parted from their lambs, can return to our field. They are no longer producing milk, so can be left with taller/stringier grass, "gut fill", until our field is munched down ready for Winter. Their browse gives the field time to recover and be cleansed by the Winter rains.
    In the lower part of the field, you may notice a large white plastic tub which the sheep, when present, cluster around. This is a cereal-based compound enriched with molasses and minerals to supplement the grassy diet.
    Mr Creed uses no pesticides or growth promoters on the grass, and only resorts to antibiotics in life-threatening situations. The sheep are checked upon very regularly, but in case of any emergency the person to contact first is James Whatmore, being handy.
    For more information, contact
    James Whatmore (Sheep and Field) | Email

    Latest Sheep Update, March 2017 (archive)
    The past year in the Field has followed its usual routine, with different groups of sheep arriving to munch away at lush pasture, and then departing back to the farm when the grass has been eaten down.
    Our sheep farmer Mr Creed is a dutiful shepherd to his flocks, and regularly checks on them, but occasionally a sheep becomes lame or has sudden medical problems. James Whatmore is the first person to contact in the event of a problem:
    James Whatmore (Sheep and Field) | Email

    He can then check at first hand, and only ring Mr Creed if there really is a problem.
    We lost an old horse chestnut tree during the autumn, on the All Saints edge of the field; the trunk had seriously rotted. It fell into the field rather than the road, and the Council (which owns the trees) dealt with its removal. We shall plant a replacement this autumn.
    Mr Creed times sheep mating later than many sheep farmers, so that his sheep produce lambs later in the Spring, to benefit from better weather and more nutritious grass. Lambs cannot come to our field until they are big enough not to squeeze through the railings and get into the road, so we have a few weeks still to wait until their bleating indicates that they have arrived!
    James Whatmore (Sheep and Field) | Email


    St Stephen's Millennium Green
    For information on this fantastic local amenity or to subscribe to their news updates, visit
    http://www.millenniumgreen.org.uk/.
    Don't miss their aerial view video.

    And finally ...
    Gallery 19
    We are not the only ones with sheep in an urban setting! Spotted at a reading of Dylan Thomas' poetry in Fitzroy Square, London, October 2014
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